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SBDX005 + 400M = SBDX011?

Posted by: petew

SBDX011 Packaging - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

In 2000, the release of the limited edition Seiko Historical SBDX005 barely created a ripple in the worldwide watch collecting community.  At the time, there was not a Seiko watch discussion forum in existence, and knowlege about Japan only Seiko releases was very limited among most watch collectors outside of Japan.  My, how things have changed.

The announcement of the SBDX011 in March of 2009 created a stir on both the Japanese themed and diving watch forums.  For years, collectors have been waiting for another Prospex automatic shrouded diver in Seiko’s lineup, and the absence of one in the Prospex lineup was glaringly obvious.

SBDX005/011 - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

Comparisons of the SBDX011 to the SBDX005 are inevitable.  Upon first glance, the two watches look identical, and of course, both are homages to Seikos original shrouded diver, the 6159 600M.  However, subtle differences between the 005 and 011 do exist, and upon inspection, it’s safe to say that much like the SBDX005 was an updated version of the 6159 600M, the 011 is further refinement of the 005.  Let’s take a look.

The silver accents of the 005 have been eliminated with the 011 which looks stealthy and subdued in comparison.  Seiko claims that at depth, the all black design increases overall legibility of the watch.  In comparison to the 011, the 005 Historical almost looks blingy with it’s glossy bezel and shiny hands.

Seiko 8L35 Shrouds - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

Looking at the shrouds, the impression is that the newer model is much more refined than the Historical.  The tight uniform brushing on the 011 almost makes the matt pebble grained 005 look unfinished.  The shroud on the 011 is held in place by hex screws.  Seiko has been switching to these screws on their newer shroud designs.  The thought is that these screws can be torqued tighter eliminating the possiblity of the screws loosening.  The finish on these screws is quite nice.  The signed crown is a welcome addition.

Here we can see that while the hands are essentially the same design, they’ve been refinished and deblinged on the 011.

Seiko 8L35 Hands - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

In keeping with the stealth theme of the 011, Seiko has toned down the bezel by dropping the gorgeous laquer bezel and replacing it with the more tool like polyurethane protected version first seen on the vintage 6159 600m.  The bezel on the 011 has 120 clicks vs. 60 on the 005.

Seiko Shrouded Diver Bezels - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

8L Prospex Bezels - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

Not only is the dial on the newer diver darker, but the lume is inserted into raised silver markers.  There also seems to be an odd bronze colored anti-reflective coating on the crystal which is now sapphire.

Seiko Prospex 1000M - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

Compared to it’s older brother, the new SBDX looks almost dressy.

Seiko Historical Prospex - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

Dimensionally, the watches seem to be identical.  I don’t discern any noticeable differences in weight either.

Seiko Big Boys - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

Here’s a shot of the casebacks.

Seiko 8L35 Prospex Casebacks - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

It’s nice that once again Seiko is producing a high end automatic shrouded diver.  At a current street price of approximately $2,300 dollars, this is not an inexpensive watch.  However, in comparison to other watches with over 30 years of continuous real world testing, engineering, field use, and in-house production, the SBDX011 is the bargain among a very limited, exclusive and expensive club of dive watches.

Seiko SBDX011 Lume - Copyright 2009 gmtplusnine.com

6 Responses to “SBDX005 + 400M = SBDX011?”

  1. Evan Says:

    Thanks for the wonderful article Pete! This is a truly serious dive watch that is a Seiko original. The SBDX011 stays true to the form of its earliest ancestor, a historically significant wrist watch, as the original 6159 600m divers were the first mass produced watches with titanium cases. This watch looks just like a natural evolution of the original 600m’s, the shroud and case look just about identical, but the new iteration is much more subdued. From far, it looks just like my 1000m quartz SBBN011, but a look at the hands and the shroud will give it away. I am glad that the same frost treatment is given to the hands, as in the quartz version. It really helps reduce glare and greatly improves visibility. The all black surface does seem to improve overall readability, as the contrast between the markers/hands and the pitch black surfaces is so high. I am very excited about this watch, and am glad that Seiko release this piece. It certainly doesn’t have mass appeal, but I look forward to seeing this watch trickle into the collections of our fellow enthusiasts. Perhaps I may be convinced to add one to my own collection.

  2. petew Says:

    Hi Evan,

    I’m glad you enjoyed the article. No question these big shrouded divers, the Quartz model as well, are serious watches. I agree with you 100% on these newer hands. When you look at these treated hands and compare them to the shinier versions that Seiko had used in the past, you can really appreciate what I think is a big improvement in legibility. I’d actually pre ordered this watch when it was announced and soon thereafter started having second thoughts as I thought it would just be another version of the Historical. However, now that I actually have seen it in person, I’m pleased as the watch really does have different vibe.

    Thanks for reading,

    petew

  3. rneumann Says:

    Hi Pete -

    Great article about a fantastic diver. I am really glad Seiko decided to continue the shrouded automatic line and this one is really incredible. I don’t think the price is too high either - given the nature of the watch and it’s history. This watch is a winner. And thanks for all the great write-ups and articles in gmt+9 - I follow it regularly.

    Best,

    Rob Neumann

  4. petew Says:

    Hi Rob,

    Good to see you here. It’s nice to know that you are still in the hobby and enjoying our writeups.

    Thanks for checking in!

    petew

  5. laughinggull Says:

    Pete–
    Thanks for the comparo shots and the great review. got me thinking and thinking….what a fantastic watch. And for those of us with the Darth Tuna….drilled lugs!!…finally! what a PITA the quartz case is compared to this.

  6. petew Says:

    Hi laughinggull,

    I’m totally with you on the drilled lugs feature. I wish every watch had them. They make life so much easier!

    Thanks for reading,

    petew

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