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	<title>Comments on: The Phoenix Arises</title>
	<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/</link>
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		<title>by: GMT+9 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Seiko Phoenix Chronograph Model SAGH005 With Caliber 6S28 Movement</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1991</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] My colleague Petew recently broke the news on GMT+9 of the resurrection of the Seiko Phoenix line. Today I noticed Seiya Kobayashi in Tokyo unveiled one of the brand new Phoenix models on his Web site at SeiyaJapan.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] My colleague Petew recently broke the news on GMT+9 of the resurrection of the Seiko Phoenix line. Today I noticed Seiya Kobayashi in Tokyo unveiled one of the brand new Phoenix models on his Web site at SeiyaJapan.com. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: ptolemy</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1925</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hey guys,

i have to be blunt, i hate these watches. the white dialed version that Bryan posted really shows the issues i have with it. 1, the chrono dials arent same size...yuk, 2 the bezel is really that color? completely off IMO, 3 the buttons/crown really dont mesh together imo.

OVERALL, it's nice to see that seiko arent dumping their 6s chrono caliber. my hope is that eventually we will see a sub $1k chrono diver, but i am not going to hold my breath:)

i am a big fan of older credor models, to me, they are just pieces of art, such elegance. just look at the credor ＧＣＢＴ９９９, GBBG995, their 4s71/76/77/79 and 6s77 can really produce nice results
like the link below (auction).
&lt;div style="text-align: center"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.gmtplusnine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/600x450-0220174423-1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
the 2 models listed below and the link to auction are really comparable to 6-15k swiss counterparts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys,</p>
<p>i have to be blunt, i hate these watches. the white dialed version that Bryan posted really shows the issues i have with it. 1, the chrono dials arent same size&#8230;yuk, 2 the bezel is really that color? completely off IMO, 3 the buttons/crown really dont mesh together imo.</p>
<p>OVERALL, it&#8217;s nice to see that seiko arent dumping their 6s chrono caliber. my hope is that eventually we will see a sub $1k chrono diver, but i am not going to hold my breath:)</p>
<p>i am a big fan of older credor models, to me, they are just pieces of art, such elegance. just look at the credor ＧＣＢＴ９９９, GBBG995, their 4s71/76/77/79 and 6s77 can really produce nice results<br />
like the link below (auction).</p>
<div style="text-align: center"><img src="http://www.gmtplusnine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/600x450-0220174423-1.jpg" /></div>
<p>the 2 models listed below and the link to auction are really comparable to 6-15k swiss counterparts
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		<title>by: bryanandersen</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1924</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1924</guid>
					<description>Hi Pete,

Thanks for the link, I like the white-dialed versions there even better than the black ones. For instance, the watch below. The smaller, seconds subdial at 9 o'clock is an interesting design feature.
&lt;div style="text-align: center"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/picture/JPEG_File/03-BRIGHTZ/SAGH003.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Interesting that you say the Phoenix will be a part of the Brightz lineup, because I don't think there's ever been a stainless steel-cased Brightz before. It may be audacious, but I hope Seiko begins making many watches in the Brightz line out of stainless.

Regards,

Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link, I like the white-dialed versions there even better than the black ones. For instance, the watch below. The smaller, seconds subdial at 9 o&#8217;clock is an interesting design feature.</p>
<div style="text-align: center"><img src="http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/picture/JPEG_File/03-BRIGHTZ/SAGH003.jpg" /></div>
<p>Interesting that you say the Phoenix will be a part of the Brightz lineup, because I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s ever been a stainless steel-cased Brightz before. It may be audacious, but I hope Seiko begins making many watches in the Brightz line out of stainless.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Bryan
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		<title>by: petew</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1919</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1919</guid>
					<description>Hey guys,

thanks for the comments.  A few additional points.  Ty, I know what you mean about run of the mill chrono.  I'm thinking/hoping though that the chrono will end up being a pretty nice piece in person.  Knowing Seiko, I'd be disappointed if it wasn't.  And yes Bryan, I can see how that chrono will endear itself to Speedy Pro fans, it's defintely got that vibe.

For those interested, there are some more pics at &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/bz/phoenix/ph_lineup.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;u&gt;this link&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Also, it looks like the Phoenix line will be an offshoot of the Brightz lineup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>thanks for the comments.  A few additional points.  Ty, I know what you mean about run of the mill chrono.  I&#8217;m thinking/hoping though that the chrono will end up being a pretty nice piece in person.  Knowing Seiko, I&#8217;d be disappointed if it wasn&#8217;t.  And yes Bryan, I can see how that chrono will endear itself to Speedy Pro fans, it&#8217;s defintely got that vibe.</p>
<p>For those interested, there are some more pics at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/bz/phoenix/ph_lineup.html" rel="nofollow"><u>this link</u></a>.</p>
<p>Also, it looks like the Phoenix line will be an offshoot of the Brightz lineup.
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		<title>by: bryanandersen</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1912</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1912</guid>
					<description>Hi Pete,

I'm a big Omega Speedmaster fan, so that Credor in the picture with black-dial, stick hands, and Arabics, on the leather strap... Oh, man!

Thanks for posting this interesting news.

Regards,

Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big Omega Speedmaster fan, so that Credor in the picture with black-dial, stick hands, and Arabics, on the leather strap&#8230; Oh, man!</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this interesting news.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Bryan
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		<title>by: blackdial</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1910</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Pete, thanks for showing us this piece 
of news.  Personally, I think these
watches are very handsome, an improvement
over many of the past Seiko styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, thanks for showing us this piece<br />
of news.  Personally, I think these<br />
watches are very handsome, an improvement<br />
over many of the past Seiko styles.
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		<title>by: Ty</title>
		<link>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1909</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gmtplusnine.com/2008/02/20/the-pheonix-arises/#comment-1909</guid>
					<description>Although it is nice to see Seiko still using their 6S, it's kinda disappointing in comparison to the original Phoenix.  IMHO, the hands are terrible not to mention a few other things. The price tag reflects the difference though.  Looks more like a run of the mill quartz chrono but, I know it's build  is much more than that.  Really would like to see one in hand :-)

thanks for the post !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it is nice to see Seiko still using their 6S, it&#8217;s kinda disappointing in comparison to the original Phoenix.  IMHO, the hands are terrible not to mention a few other things. The price tag reflects the difference though.  Looks more like a run of the mill quartz chrono but, I know it&#8217;s build  is much more than that.  Really would like to see one in hand <img src='http://www.gmtplusnine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>thanks for the post !
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